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white_hart ([personal profile] white_hart) wrote2016-04-13 07:05 pm

Reading: The Spellcoats and The Crown of Dalemark

When I read Diana Wynne Jones's Dalemark books in the mid-80s, there were only three of them, and I didn't really get a lot of things in them as they were a lot more complicated than most of her other books which I was reading at the time. So when I found the fourth book (published in 1993, after I had gone to university and stopped looking in the children's sections of bookshops, because somehow it never occurred to me that the authors I'd loved five or ten years earlier were still writing new books) in the Oxfam bookshop a few years ago I bought it, and then bought the other three so I could re-read them and remind myself of what happened in them. I re-read Cart and Cwidder quite some time ago now, eventually moved on to Drowned Ammet last summer and picked The Spellcoats off the shelf this weekend.

The Spellcoats is a book that I really didn't get when I was eleven or twelve, or however old I was when I read it the first time. Re-reading it thirty years later, that doesn't surprise me at all. It's not that the plot is complicated, exactly, but it's probably more about relationships between people than it is about events; in fact, very little actually happens. It doesn't have the comic element that much of Wynne Jones's writing has; on re-reading, I felt that the writing reminded me of Ursula Le Guin, sometimes even more than it reminded me of DWJ's other work. And the ending is very ambiguous, especially for a children's book. The novel is structured as a "found" narrative of events which breaks off before the real climax of the action; as an adult I can see that there are enough clues in the narrative itself and the "afterword" from the supposed finder to make it clear what the resolution is intended to be, but I wasn't a sophisticated enough reader at the age when I first read the book to feel confident in making that inference, and I was disappointed and frustrated that the story didn't seem to end properly. As an adult, I thought it was brilliant; I loved the economy of the storytelling, without any superfluous information, and the landscapes of Dalemark seemed so vividly present.

In the event, I enjoyed The Spellcoats so much I couldn't resist going straight on to The Crown of Dalemark. This felt more like typical Diana Wynne Jones, but definitely Diana Wynne Jones at the top of her game; it brings together the characters from the three previous books, and adds an element of time-travel fantasy which is unusual in being time-travel fantasy in a fantasy history, rather than in real history. There is more of DWJ's typical humour (I was particularly charmed by the ancient college with its own impenetrable slang and traditions, which I strongly suspect to have at least a partial model not a million miles away from where I work) and the characters are interesting, complex and generally likeable, even those who also exhibit serious flaws. I could barely put it down, although I was also sorry to come to the end, and saddened all over again to remember that Diana Wynne Jones is dead and that I'm running out of books of hers that I haven't read (though I still have a few more to go, so maybe I'm glad to have had that 15-year gap).
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[personal profile] sally_maria 2016-04-13 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
My experience of The Spellcoats was pretty much exactly the same as yours - I always used to feel very stupid that I didn't get some of DWJ's endings, and it wasn't until I was an adult discussing them with other fans I realised it wasn't just me.

When the Crown of Dalemark was published, they re-released the other three as well, and I found them when I was supposed to be in the middle of studying for college exams... I'm sure it didn't do my results any good, but I still have the books.
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[personal profile] the_rck 2016-04-13 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I should reread the Dalemark books. I read The Spellcoats first (it was one of the two DWJ books I found at the grocery store within a two week period. The other was Charmed Life) and liked that a lot. I must have been at least sixteen or I wouldn't have been able to buy myself books. For some reason, I didn't much like Drowned Ammet when I got it through interlibrary loan. I think there were things about it that I just didn't get. The Crown of Dalemark didn't come out until several years later, and I got more into the stuff in it that connected to The Spellcoats than I did anything else. I think I unfairly blamed it for not being more like The Spellcoats. I kind of liked Cart and Cwidder, but at the time, I'm not sure I connected it to either The Spellcoats or Drowned Ammet.
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[personal profile] coughingbear 2016-04-13 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I love The Spellcoats so much - there is something about the atmosphere that also reminds me of Power of Three, which I did read as a child and also remains a favourite. And it has her ability to go from everyday to extraordinary and have both be wholly convincing. The bit near the end when Tanaqui is in the river...

[identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com 2016-04-13 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that the series with a Milda?

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2016-04-13 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
'The Spellcoats' was one of the first Wynne Jones books I read. I still think it is one of her best - complex, subtle and, despite the (apparent) ages of the protagonists, very, very adult.

I must admit, though, that I was disappointed in 'The Crown of Dalemark' - I think because I was expecting more.

[identity profile] cybik.livejournal.com 2016-04-13 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The Spellcoats is probably my favourite of her novels.
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[personal profile] coughingbear 2016-04-14 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's definitely one of mine too. I don't know that I can pick an absolute favourite though!

[identity profile] wellinghall.livejournal.com 2016-04-14 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't read DWJ at all when I was growing up, but I have been reading quite a bit over the last few years. These two have escaped me so far, and I don't think I had heard of The Spellcoats at all.

[identity profile] wellinghall.livejournal.com 2016-04-14 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for that.

[identity profile] sam-t.livejournal.com 2016-04-14 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
I think I got that quartet in the wrong order from the library, and when I read The Merlin Conspiracy again last year I was surprised to discover that it contained significant amounts of things that I thought had happened in Dalemark, so I think I'd got rather confused. I must try them again.

[identity profile] bopeepsheep.livejournal.com 2016-04-14 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still mildly perturbed by the chapter I *swear* is in Fire and Hemlock but absolutely is not...

(Given the nature of the book this is far more creepy than it ought to be!)
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[identity profile] ylla.livejournal.com 2016-04-15 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. Yes.

(What happens in it?)

[identity profile] sam-t.livejournal.com 2016-04-15 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm beginning to wonder whether I actually read The Merlin Conspiracy instead of The Spellcoats. I have definitely read The Crown of Dalemark (I remember being surprised by the trains), and at least one of the two first ones but I don't remember a found narrative. The trouble with a DWJ series is that if something doesn't make sense it could just as easily be something you just haven't understood yet, and if you're getting the books at irregular intervals it's harder to sit back and work it out.

[identity profile] mimmimmim.livejournal.com 2016-04-14 10:36 am (UTC)(link)
You are making me want to read more DWJ. Which is no bad thing. Unfurtunately I have a pile of pants to plough through for SFX first.
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[identity profile] ylla.livejournal.com 2016-04-15 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The Dalemark books are about the only DWJ I haven't read, I think. Possibly I should remedy that.