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white_hart ([personal profile] white_hart) wrote2016-04-02 08:28 pm

So terribly heppy

The current programme on Radio 4 (which appears to be about optimism and the reverse) just featured a film historian who appeared to think that the ending of Brief Encounter was utterly downbeat.

Personally, I have always thought that if she'd run off with Trevor Howard they'd only have ended up bickering after six months and hating the sight of each other after a year, and that going back to the kind if slightly dull husband was the right decision. This probably says a lot about me. And, indeed, about the film historian who clearly felt she should have run off with Trevor Howard.
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[personal profile] lilliburlero 2016-04-02 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, what a bloody awful misreading. The ending isn't a victory for repression, but for trust and patience and kindness: Fred knows what's been going on, if not the detail, but he knows that this is a thing that Laura has to work through for herself. It's subversive of patriarchal ideas in a way that her running off with Alec could never be: Fred recognises the contingency of relationships, that they are existential by nature, that Laura isn't his possession but his partner and allows her the space to make a free choice. And she makes the right one: Alec is oddly sexually compelling, but he has none of Fred's largeness of heart and spirit; I can see him easily becoming demanding and possessive; he doesn't, as Fred shrewdly guesses, actually make Laura happy, only excited. I have Feelings about Fred.
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[personal profile] clanwilliam 2016-04-02 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Thinking about it, is Rattigan's The Deep Blue Sea a fanfic of what might have happened?

I was lucky enough to see the Penelope Wilton production as part of my compulsory course on my Erasmus exchange in 1992-3.
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[personal profile] callmemadam 2016-04-03 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that film historian is an idiot who understands *nothing*!

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[personal profile] nineveh_uk 2016-04-03 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to contest that Brief Encounter has a specifically happy ending; it certainly has a much better ending than if Laura had run off with Trevor Howard, who is clearly a louse*, but the possibility for a long-term life of quiet desperation with Fred is still there. There's nothing wrong with Fred, he's clearly a perfectly pleasant man who ultimately loves and trusts his wife, but though Laura has learned through the affair what isn't a solution to not being very heppy, the question of what to do instead about the factors that lead her to it is shelved. Though if there is about to be a war no doubt she will find things are going to change anyway!

*I saw a reading of the original play script with Harriet Walter and Alec Jennings, which gave a strong impression that Laura was simply the latest in a string of women that he had pulled this schtick on.

[identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com 2016-04-02 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think Ilsa should have stayed with Rick or got on the plane?

[identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com 2016-04-02 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
:-)

[identity profile] bookwormsarah.livejournal.com 2016-04-03 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
I like the Victoria Wood version where she runs off with the interrupting friend....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajC4Az4wscc