I had an intense and saddening passionate discussion (not quite argument) with my brother and my sister in law over Christmas about trans issues. The particular saddening bit was when she insisted that she wasn’t anti-trans but trans women shouldn’t try to put themselves forward as leaders of feminist groups but rather should ‘leave us to have our own thing for ourselves’ sort of thing. I wasn’t up for that view needless to say and stood my ground staunchly but yeah, she wasn’t up for ‘trans women are women, trans men are men’ which is of course my standpoint.